ada sorang mamat ni. musti bajet aku ni selenge mcm haram, maka telah memulakan perbualan cenggini dengan aku-
loser : zura, i have lots of maths history to tell u and i bet u wouldn't know about it.
me : owh ye ke? like what? (not particularly enthusiastic, coz i dont fancy him at all)
loser : all the numbers that we've been using, u tau tak the arabs yang wujudkan, yg buat. bukan mat salleh.
me : hmm. i tau.
loser : owh, u tau eh. tu la, saje nak bgtau u , yg pak arabs ni la yg invent numbers. bukan mat salleh sume.
me : hmm. tell me something i dont know pls. since u start off this conversation on a bragging note kan.
loser : owh. hehe. u tau tak yg invent ni nama dia Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī?
me :hmm. tau.
loser : owh u tau eh. owh u tau tak ada another inventor, Abū Nasr al-Fārābi ?
me :hmm. tau.
loser : owh tau gak eh. so do u know apakah persamaan mereka berdua?
me : hmm. tak tau. tell la. ( ni ada tone interested gak. tp sbb dah pissed off kan. )
loser : diorang berdua ahli sufi.
me : so what does ahli sufi does?
loser : mcm ni la. to put into our perspective, kalo kita dengan nama tuhan, tp kalo ahli sufi ni, dengan cinta pada tuhan.
and bla bla bla..perbualan sampah.
note to self and to friends :
frankly i have no idea if khawarizmi and al farabi the only beings who invented numbers. but what i know is that the arabs were the one who starts of with having numeric symbols. and its them who quantify zero. (^ lepas baca wiki, then perhaps it wasnt the muslim either. but that's what i thought la kan. masa baca dalam text book rasenye. hmm).the process of inventing numbers is a gradual one. it tooks many phases and a lot of civilizations and obviously lots of scholars. having said that, still later on the symbol changes and created depending on each civilization. but not without the study of the arabic or chinese numerics. (ni ape yg i ingat2 lupe la kan. tp can read more of it on google or wiki la kan, obviously i will do that. maybe satgi, i link them to this entry).
of sufism, i just wanted to know how does it relates to the story of it being mathematical. mamat ni jelas skali telah lost linkage between being a sufi and a mathematician. i want to know THAT. how. i do know one thing, that back then, the historical times, the inventions era, all mathematicians or scientist are mostly orang alim ulama, nama pon alim ulama, berpengetahuan. diorg jugalah doktor, penyair , penyajak, ahli muzik*.
*owh dialog tadi tu tak abis. tp lanjutan adalah spt di bawah
loser : zura, u tau tak org yang suka mathematics ni, are good in music.
me : owh ye ke?
loser : hmm , macam u , u main ape.
me : (baru ternganga tak sempat jawab)
loser : mcm u kan, u main bass kan.
me : erm.
loser : u tau tak sape inventor of guitar?
me : nope. who?
loser : tadi. yg i dah sebut tadi la.
me : hmm. (blur.)
loser : ok. try name a few la. teka la sesapa.
me : i tak tau laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. bgtau aje la.
loser : al farabi la. ni musti u tak tau kan. ha, ni i bagi tau u. sape inventor gitar ni.
me : (losing my mind and temper and uttered ' what the fuck am i doing still listening to this mamat talking? under my breath)
p/s : ape2 fakta sejarah yg i tulis does not necessarily be correct. and after reading some, i might be wrong and yet lazy to correct them. coz i am not that smart either. hmm. tambahan pula, saya berjaya membuktikan mamat ni juga salah la jugak fakta sejarahnya. ceh.
6 comments:
siapakah lelaki loser tersebut? adakah dia tidak tahu kita semua pergi sekolah?
ina, tell me about it. mmg loser cipanzi ni. dia seorang duda tua beranak satu. jap, umor 40 tua tak? LOL.
i think sejarah time dia skola2 dulu guna syllabus lain la.
rafiqa, are you sure his 40? macam tidak aje :P
ye la . 40-ish. ni mamat yg berkenalan dgn i kat parlimen tu. ingat tak i ade cite dulu tu. tak ingat eh? :P
Gua baca pun rasa meluat cara dia bragging. Realitinya org bodo yg selalunya yg tunjuk pandai.
Agaknya dia just try to be nice kat lu kots (baca; nak ngorat lu jadi kena tunjuk2lah dia pun kencang) tapi tatau lu lagi bapak dgn maths history.. hehehe
"of sufism, i just wanted to know how does it relates to the story of it being mathematical. mamat ni jelas skali telah lost linkage between being a sufi and a mathematician." mamat tu tatau kots atau lupa nak bgtau lu bahawa makin alimnya ulama dedulu makin nampak dan yakin kpd kebesaran tuhan (makin bertambah ilmu makin rasa bnyak benda yg dia tatau)
Actually banyak gua nak komen beb. Terutama kat entry nothing kat atas tu tapi nanti sis you tak tau nak komen apa pulak since gua pajak semua :p
bro : sengal la lu. komen aje la. haha.
anyway, my sisters are alright. kalo u komen ke tak komen ke, diorg konfem bergosip dgn i kat tepon. :D
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